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Post by _ds_ » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:57 am

Micha wrote:Generally it is assumed that a particular repository (or apt-line) is for a specific version of Linux, instead of having packages from various different versions all mashed together. This is certainly the case for the repositories on 'debs.oolite.org'.
Hmm? Per-kernel repositories? Are you sure about that?
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Post by _ds_ » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:07 am

Micha wrote:
Poro wrote:People sometimes get put-off from Playdeb when they realise they have to follow the instructions given to enable access to some repositories.
Well,same thing for the Oolite debs. But until there's a new stable version of Oolite, there's no way it'll get updated in the official distro repositories (ie, Debian/Ubuntu).
It may be that 1.73.x is considered to be stable enough; but, IMO, the major stumbling block is the mozjs embedding.
Until then you have to 'hack' Oolite onto your system via the autopackager release, download-compile-install your own copy,
And if you do that, I strongly suggest installing devscripts, running “debuild binary” and installing the resulting .deb.
or use an unofficial repository such as PlayDeb or Oolite Debs. The latter is the least hacky mechanism, assuming you trust the repository to get it right.
Well, if you will go spraying mud and oil over the other mechanisms… ;)
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Post by Diziet Sma » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:06 am

_ds_ wrote:
Micha wrote:Generally it is assumed that a particular repository (or apt-line) is for a specific version of Linux, instead of having packages from various different versions all mashed together. This is certainly the case for the repositories on 'debs.oolite.org'.
Hmm? Per-kernel repositories? Are you sure about that?
Micha didn't say "per-kernel", he said "specific version", such as Hardy, Jaunty, etc.. there's quite a difference..
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Post by _ds_ » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:49 pm

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_ds_ wrote:
Micha wrote:Generally it is assumed that a particular repository (or apt-line) is for a specific version of Linux, instead of having packages from various different versions all mashed together. This is certainly the case for the repositories on 'debs.oolite.org'.
Hmm? Per-kernel repositories? Are you sure about that?
Micha didn't say "per-kernel", he said "specific version", such as Hardy, Jaunty, etc.. there's quite a difference..
Exhibit A: “a particular repository (or apt-line) is for a specific version of Linux”. For example, I recently tested a patch which works for a specific range of versions (strictly, releases) of Linux: specifically, 2.6.32 to (so far) 2.6.33-rc6.

Linux is the kernel. It is not the userland.
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Post by Diziet Sma » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:37 am

Mmmm.. ok. I see your point, and agree.. he changed subjects in the middle of the paragraph. He begins by discussing repositories, which do indeed refer to Hardy, Jaunty, etc, then switched to talking about specific kernel versions. Rather confusing.. :lol:
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Post by Micha » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:09 pm

Apologies... I -meant- 'Distro' when I -said- 'Linux'. I should know better than to call 'Linux' the OS when I know it's 'only' the kernel. Most users do see the word 'Linux' as referring to the entire OS though. But I should not add to the confusion. My bad.
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