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(As you may have guessed already, this thread is only for Windows laptops, because this only works with XP, Vista and Windows 7. Possibly now also Windows 8, though I haven't tested this.)

Most people who've been hanging around the Oolite Forums for a while are familiar with the problems caused by old ATI or NVIDIA drivers, usually seen in plaintive messages posted by newcomers to Oolite.

For the un-initiated, here is a screenshot of what they are greeted with; when, eagerly and with much anticipation, they fire up Oolite for the first time. Talk about that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach...

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Often, the cure for this can be implemented quite easily, either by updating to the latest drivers or implementing the "-nosplash" switch when starting Oolite. However, if the nosplash option doesn't work, the only solution is to update your graphics drivers, but for laptop owners with ATI graphics chips, this is much easier said than done.

You see, most laptop manufacturers don't allow AMD (who now own what was ATI) to include drivers for their graphics in the Catalyst Mobility drivers installer. They prefer that their customers only use drivers officially released by themselves. The problem is, because the graphics are "good enough" for most applications, updates to their graphics drivers are few and far between, (if they can be bothered at all) and always lag a long way behind those released by AMD.

Unfortunately, attempts to install the AMD drivers in place of the manufacturers ones always fail. However, it turns out to be possible to modify current AMD (or nvidia) drivers, so that they will successfully install to a laptop.


Here is how I got the latest AMD drivers to work with my new (ok, it's 1 year old, but it's new for me) ASUS Pro31J laptop which uses the rare and somewhat orphaned X2300 GPU.

In my case, even on official sites I found few or no references to my GPU. Some research and reading around the web turned up the fact that this was because it's a special version of the X1300, and is functionally the same as an X1300. Despite this, however, I could not get X1300 drivers to install.

Eventually, I discovered the Hardware Heaven Mobility Modder, which absolutely gets my vote for Utility of the Year.

(Though I am concentrating on ATI here, I gather a similar situation applies to laptops with NVIDIA graphics, as there is a tool similar to the one I will describe available for modding NVIDIA drivers.)

For laptops with Intel GPU's, see post #10 by Capt. Murphy.

So, having gotten my long-winded introduction out the way, and given you the links to the tools, let's get to business...

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One thing I will add in reply to the thread on modding the driver installs to install newer drivers than are recommended by the driver suppliers (in my case AMD/ATI) - Laptop video cards are invariably compromised relative to their desktop counterparts for obvious reasons - mainly physical space and cooling. In many cases some functions considered non-essential are either simplified, slowed down or removed. There is an inherent risk if I were to force the install of the latest standard Radeon HD5xxx driver instead of the recommended Mobility Radeon HD5xxx driver that certain functions would be able to push the GPU beyond its safe operating temperature.

Now obviously you should still get drivers from the card manufacturer not the laptop manufacturer - for instance ACER are pretty slack when it comes to testing newer drivers from ATI so I might get an update once a year if lucky, and probably never will again since my laptop is now more than 3 years old. Luckily AMD/ATI do provide current and tested drivers on their site even for these custom laptop versions of their cards so for me now this is not a problem.

I only mention this as I have burned a GPU on an older Nvidia card in exactly this way. I had DirectX 11 working on it, all my games had between 30-60% performance increase - but 2 weeks later I needed to replace my laptops main board (as the GPU was hard soldered) so just beware that the reason your current official driver might be a couple of points behind the desktop version may well be that in preliminary tests it causes heat or other operating issues, and will need functionally modifying before it can be officially supported/supplied.
Now, in fairness, in the 2.5 years this thread has been up, this is the first mention on this board of such problems, (the burned GPU mentioned above did not occur as a result of reading this thread) and nobody who's followed the instructions to date has reported any problems. My own Asus laptop mentioned above is still happily running Oolite. However.. now you are aware of the possibility, and the final decision and responsibility is yours. If your GPU melts, you lose all your data, or your cat becomes pregnant, you have been warned.


Now.. on with the show.


The first thing to do is download the modtool, of course. Before installing it, you will need to install the Microsoft .net framework, if you don't already have it. You may also, if you are using XP and have an ATI chip, need to install MSXML 6.0 from Microsoft. (The .net framework and MSXML 6.0 are already built in to Vista and Windows 7) The page at the Mobility Modder website has the link. When the prerequisites are done, install the modtool.

In passing, I'd like to add that the instructions provided at the website are clear and concise, and really are all you need. I'm mostly writing this to make people aware of this very useful tool and show how simple it is to use.

For Vista (and, I presume, Windows 7, though this is not mentioned specifically) it is necessary to disable the User Account Control system before attempting to modify the drivers. Failure to do so will prevent successful modification. Four methods are given by which to do this, but for my money, using MSCONFIG is the simplest.

Click on Start>Run then type msconfig into the text-box, before clicking OK or hitting the 'Enter' key. When msconfig starts, click on the 'Tools' tab and scroll down to the 'Disable UAC' command. Select it, then click the 'Lauch' button. A console window will appear. When the command reports that it is finished, close the console window and msconfig, then reboot your laptop for the change to take effect. If you wish, you can re-enable UAC later the same way, as it's only necessary for it to be disabled during the modification process.

Now you will need drivers. You can get them either from the Hardware Heaven site, or you can go to AMD or NVIDIA's driver download site. The ones from the manufacturers may be a little more up to date, but HH are generally pretty good at having current drivers available.
  • A tip: if you choose Mobility Radeon or notebook drivers at the AMD site, you will get a message telling you to go to your laptop manufacturer for drivers. To get the drivers you need, instead choose the plain Radeon option, and simply get the drivers which are the closest equivalent for your GPU.
You will probably have the choice of a full software suite or individual WDM driver download. I'd suggest the full Catalyst suite, even though it will be around 95MB, because it gives you much more control over and info about your graphics.

Now the fun part.

Run the driver installer. The first step the installer takes is to extract/unpack itself, which is all we need at this stage. Pay attention to the folder it extracts to, because we need this info for the next step. When extraction is complete, the installer will display the installation window, waiting for you to continue. Instead, cancel the installation, because we're gonna make some modifications first...

Run the modtool, and browse to the driver extraction folder. Click on the 'Modify' button and let the tool do its thing. It will probably take a few minutes. When it's finished, close the tool and, using an Explorer window, browse to the extraction folder. Run the Setup.exe to begin installation of the modified drivers. You may get a 'Driver is not WHQL certified' message, (this is a side effect of the modification) just ignore it and proceed with the installation.

The end result, (after switching shaders to full instead of simple and using a Griff cobby to show off the shaders), looks like this:

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A list (current as of 24 Jan 2010) of supported GPU's for ATI and NVIDIA follows:

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Supported ATI GPU chips:

Windows 7 / Windows Vista
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 4330
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 4530
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 4570
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4650
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4670
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4830
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4850
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4860
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4870
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4870 X2
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3430
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3670
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3850 X2
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3870
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3870 X2
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5600
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2700
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3450
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3470
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3650
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3850
ATI MOBILITY FIRE GL T2/T2e
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V3100
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V3200
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5000
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5100
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5200
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5250
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V7100
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V7200
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9500
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9550
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9800
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X300
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X600
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X600 SE
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700 XL
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X800
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X800 XT
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1300
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1350
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1400
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1450
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1600
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1700
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1800
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1800 XT
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1900
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X2300
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2300
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2400
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2400 XT
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X2500
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2600
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2600 XT
ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M Series
ATI RADEON XPRESS 1100 Series
ATI RADEON XPRESS 1200 Series
ATI RADEON XPRESS 1300M

Windows XP
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 4330
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 4530
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 4570
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4650
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4670
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4830
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4850
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4860
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4870
ATI MOBILITY Radeon HD 4870 X2
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3430
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3670
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3850 X2
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3870
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3870 X2
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5600
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2700
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3450
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3470
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3650
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3850
ATI MOBILITY FIRE GL T2/T2e
ATI MOBILITY FireGL 7800
ATI MOBILITY FireGL 9000
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V3100
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V3200
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5000
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5100
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5200
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V5250
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V7100
ATI MOBILITY FireGL V7200
ATI MOBILITY IGP 320M
ATI MOBILITY IGP 340M/345M
ATI MOBILITY IGP 9000
ATI MOBILITY IGP 9000/9100
ATI MOBILITY RADEON
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7500
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9200
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9500
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9550
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700
ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9800
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X300
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X600
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X600 SE
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X700 XL
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X800
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X800 XT
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1300
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1350
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1400
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1450
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1600
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1700
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1800
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1800 XT
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1900
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X2300
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X2300 HD
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2400
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2400 XT
ATI MOBILITY RADEON X2500
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2600
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2600 XT
ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M Series
ATI RADEON XPRESS 1100 Series
ATI RADEON XPRESS 1200 Series

Read more: ATI MobilityModder - HardwareHeaven.com http://www.hardwareheaven.com/modtool.php

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Supported NVIDIA GPU chips:

NVIDIA GeForce 103M G
NVIDIA GeForce 105M G
NVIDIA GeForce 110M G
NVIDIA GeForce 120M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 130M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 150M GTS
NVIDIA GeForce 160M GTS
NVIDIA GeForce 210M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 220M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 230M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 240M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 260M GTX
NVIDIA GeForce 280M GTX
NVIDIA GeForce2 Go
NVIDIA GeForce4 410 Go 16M
NVIDIA GeForce4 420 Go
NVIDIA GeForce4 420 Go 32M
NVIDIA GeForce4 440 Go 64M
NVIDIA GeForce4 440 Go
NVIDIA GeForce4 448 Go
NVIDIA GeForce4 448 Go
NVIDIA GeForce4 460 Go
NVIDIA GeForce4 488 Go
NVIDIA GeForce4 4200 Go
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 5100
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 5200 32/64M
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 5200 64MB
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 5250/5500
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 53x0
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 5600
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 5650
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 5700
NVIDIA GeForce FX Go 5700
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6100
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6200
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6400
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6600
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6600 GT
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6600 TE/6200 TE
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6800
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6800 Ultra
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7200
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7350
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7450
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 GT
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7700
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7800
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7800 GTX
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GTX
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 SE
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7950 GTX
NVIDIA GeForce 7000M / nForce 610M
NVIDIA GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M
NVIDIA GeForce 7190M / nForce 650M
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M G
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GS
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GTS
NVIDIA GeForce 8700M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS
NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTX
NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
NVIDIA GeForce 9300M G
NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M GS
NVIDIA GeForce 9500M G
NVIDIA GeForce 9500M GS
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GS
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 9650M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GS
NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GS/GT
NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GTS
NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GT
NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS
NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS
NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX
NVIDIA Quadro2 Go / Quadro2 MXR/EX
NVIDIA Quadro4 500 GoGL
NVIDIA Quadro4 700 GoGL
NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 1600M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 2500M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3600M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 350M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 360M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3700M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 370M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 540M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 560M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M
NVIDIA Quadro FX 770M
NVIDIA Quadro FX Go 1000
NVIDIA Quadro FX Go 700
NVIDIA Quadro FX Go1400
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 110M
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 120M
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 130M
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 135M
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 160M
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 210S / NVIDIA GeForce 6150LE
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 300M
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 310M
NVIDIA Quadro NVS 320M
NVIDIA G70GL
NVIDIA G73M-X
NVIDIA G92-ES
NVIDIA MCP67M
NVIDIA MCP79MH
NVIDIA MCP79MX
NVIDIA MCP79SLI
NVIDIA MCP79U
NVIDIA NB9P-GE
NVIDIA NV31GLM Pro
NVIDIA NV31GLM
NVIDIA NV31M
NVIDIA NV31M Pro
NVIDIA NV36M Pro
NVIDIA NV36MAP
NVIDIA NV44
NVIDIA NV44GLM
NVIDIA NV44M

Read more: NVIDIA MobilityModder - HardwareHeaven.com http://www.hardwareheaven.com/nvmodtool.php

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Diziet, you absolute legend, thank you so much for this, I've tried numerous times to upgrade my Radeon Xpress 1100 driver with no joy except to inadvertently corrupt the Catalyst Control Centre!
Just followed the instructions and upgraded to the latest (on the AMD site anyway) 9.11 Catalyst Control Centre with no problems, can't wait to start playing with the Oolite settings now.

This has got to be a sticky, surely?


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Since 17.12.2009 the 9.12 drivers are out.


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Since 17.12.2009 the 9.12 drivers are out.
For some of the newer GPU's, at least; the latest for many older and legacy chips is currently 9.11.

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Sticky on this topic for the win. Good information in there, Dizzy.


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Diziet, you absolute legend, thank you so much for this, I've tried numerous times to upgrade my Radeon Xpress 1100 driver with no joy except to inadvertently corrupt the Catalyst Control Centre!
Just followed the instructions and upgraded to the latest (on the AMD site anyway) 9.11 Catalyst Control Centre with no problems, can't wait to start playing with the Oolite settings now.

This has got to be a sticky, surely?
That's excellent news, Nijik! Please post here to let us know how it went!

Thanks a_c, for stickying the thread! 8)

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@Diziet:

Thanks... :D

There is a Radeon 3850 with the 9.11 Driver here. And the -nosplash parameter did the job.

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Installing non OEM validated Intel GPU Drivers on OEM machines.

http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-022355.htm

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Thanks! I hadn't thought to check for Generic Intel drivers.. Nice to see Intel describing how to go about things, too!

Added Intel to the thread title, and a link to your post in the original post.

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No worries Dizzy - nice to meet you by the way.

The ATI modding instructions was essential to me even being able to play Oolite at all when I joined up a little over a year ago. My old machine was an ageing ATI card based laptop whose last official OEM driver release was late 2005. So thank-you :)

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It's always nice to meet a satisfied customer! Thanks! 8)

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Hi. I have a different thing going on right now but for at least one vaguely-related problem I did find a cure within Intel driver settings. Point of posting this here is that changing settings is a bit less drastic than installing new drivers if it solves a problem. Thread is here http://aegidian.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11873. Basically blurry text corrected by changing whatever-it-was in the settings. BTW I obviously thought I'd made some kind of joke in that post but have absolutely no idea what it was I thought was funny at the time. Must have scooped some narcotics. Rich.


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That's always worth keeping in mind, and worth trying first.. thanks for the reminder, Richard. :D 8)

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