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Black planets on Min Detail

Post by Reval »

Not quite sure if this can be called a bug in 1.90, but if it isn't, it certainly is a mighty big oversight:

There is no texturing of any kind - or even basic colour - to any of the planets, not even in Strict Mode, when on Minimum Detail (ie. no drivers or shaders). I'm currently testing oxps on a Win 7, Intel Core-2 Duo (2010-vintage laptop).

Was wondering also if there happens to be a plist fix for this omission.
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Re: Black planets on Min Detail

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Cannot reproduce here. Can we see a Latest.log please?

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Re: Black planets on Min Detail

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Went into Strict again...

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Opening log for Oolite version 1.90 (x86-64) under Windows 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 64-bit at 2020-11-20 09:55:34 -0500.
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5450  @ 1.66GHz 2 processors detected.
Build options: OpenAL, new planets.

Note that the contents of the log file can be adjusted by editing logcontrol.plist.

09:55:35.439 [display.mode.list.native]: Windows native resolution detected: 1680 x 1050
09:55:35.480 [joystick.init]: Number of joysticks detected: 0
09:55:35.481 [rendering.opengl.version]: OpenGL renderer version: 1.1.0 ("1.1.0"). Vendor: "Microsoft Corporation". Renderer: "GDI Generic".
09:55:35.481 [rendering.opengl.extensions]: OpenGL extensions (3):
GL_EXT_paletted_texture, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_WIN_swap_hint
09:55:35.624 [rendering.opengl.shader.support]: Shaders will not be used (OpenGL extension GL_ARB_shading_language_100 is not available).
09:55:35.854 [searchPaths.dumpAll]: Resource paths: 
    Resources
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns
    ../AddOns
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.hud.data.Wildeblood.Docked_HUDs.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.amah.noshaders_extra_stations_resources.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Astrobe.smallships.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.cim.energy-bomb.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.cim.systemfeatures.sunspots.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Randomshipnames.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Commander_McLane.Sell_Equipment.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Norby.Telescope.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Norby.TorusToSun.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.phkb.AutoDock.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Reval.FE_Ships.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Reval.FE_Ships_Player.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.spara.market_ads.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.spara.market_inquirer.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.spara.market_observer.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.stranger.HabitableMainPlanets.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Svengali.BGS.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Svengali.Library.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Switeck.Auto-ECM.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Thargoid.CommandersLog.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Thargoid.PlanetaryCompass.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Thargoid.PlanetaryCompassPackA.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.distant_suns.oxz
    D:\Programs/Games/Oolite-1.90/oolite.app/GNUstep/Library/ApplicationSupport/Oolite/ManagedAddOns/oolite.oxp.Wildeblood.GlareClarifier.oxz
    ../AddOns/Elite_Trader.oxp
09:55:36.152 [shipData.load.begin]: Loading ship data.
09:55:38.393 [startup.complete]: ========== Loading complete in 3.53 seconds. ==========
09:55:49.719 [searchPaths.dumpAll]: Resource paths: strict
    
09:55:49.727 [shipData.load.begin]: Loading ship data.
09:55:51.211 [script.load.world.listAll]: Loaded 16 world scripts:
    Oolite Equipment Control 1.90
    Oolite Ship Library 1.90
    oolite-cloaking-device 1.90
    oolite-constrictor-hunt 1.90
    oolite-contracts-cargo 1.90
    oolite-contracts-helpers 1.90
    oolite-contracts-parcels 1.90
    oolite-contracts-passengers 1.90
    oolite-libPriorityAI 1.90
    oolite-nova 1.90
    oolite-populator 1.90
    oolite-primable-equipment-register 1.90
    oolite-registership 1.90
    oolite-thargoid-plans 1.90
    oolite-trumbles 1.90
    oolite-tutorial 1.90
09:56:35.828 [exit.context]: Exiting: Shift-escape pressed.
09:56:35.828 [gameController.exitApp]: .GNUstepDefaults synchronized.

Closing log at 2020-11-20 09:56:35 -0500.

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Re: Black planets on Min Detail

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The problem here is that you do not have any 3D gfx drivers installed on the system. This causes Oolite to fall back to software rendering, which is guaranteed to have unpredictable results and is simply unfit for any game with 3d graphics.

Probably the best solution here would be to change the minimum OpenGL requirements of Oolite to at least OpenGL v1.4, which would result in flat out refusal to run on anything less.

In the meantime, your working solution would be to install graphics drivers for your card.

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Re: Black planets on Min Detail

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Thanks. Drivers for it appear to be unavailable, otherwise I would have installed them.

Oh well, back to 1.82 for the lappy... I can live with black holes for testing :)
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Re: Black planets on Min Detail

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another_commander wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:13 pm
...change the minimum OpenGL requirements of Oolite to at least OpenGL v1.4, which would result in flat out refusal to run on anything less.
A further observation, if you'll permit: it seems hardly in the spirit of Oolite's assumed basic remit to emulate at minimum PC Elite Plus (which used flood-fill for its planets and suns) not to do likewise for minimum-speccers who wish to sample Oo's delights... Surely SDL can manage a flood-fill or two? (well, I know it can - I've used it).
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