Issues with Graphics in Linux

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Re: Issues with Graphics in Linux

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Damocles Edge wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:04 pm
Welcome aboard fraterchaos.
I run Manjaro XFCE myself (great distro).
Can I ask which version you are running (XFCE, KDE, GNOME) ?
I don't use compiz myself (I use the stock XFWM).
The only issue I ever really encountered with oolite was using the version installed by pamac - I found that it spread oolite files between my root partition and my home partition :? (this was some time ago now - whether the pamac installed version behaves the same way I couldn't say)
I can without any doubt second the recommendation of removing the version installed by pamac and going with downloading and installing the oolite.org version.
Installation of it really is a breeze - just pick a folder of your home partition.
I have always used free drivers with my ATI card (I won't have any proprietary software on my machine) and have never had any issues.
I'm running the XFCE version as well, but I use Compiz-Reloaded (which is basically the old 0.8 version of Compiz with all the "unstable" bells and whistles) I'd really hate to have toe remove it, as my entire desktop and everything I do on the computer revolves around the way I have things set up in Compiz. (if you want to see what I mean, here's a link to a video of my desktop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uLu9taUBd4 )

As I stated earlier, I did install the version from the website, and that fixed everything (well except that the audio is a little weird now... the voices of the "radio chatter" are too loud, and actual comms messages are too quiet) But other than that small glitch, all the graphics stuff works fine.

I first used the proprietary ATI drivers when I installed Manjaro, then I had some issues with them and switched to the free drivers. But I recently had to reinstall the whole system (due to something totally unrelated) and decided to try the proprietary drivers again (since Manjaro makes it fairly painless to switch back) and they've been working fine this time around. I like the proprietary ones if they work right because you can access more of the settings. Otherwise, there doesn't seem to be any difference in performance.

But anyway, everything is fine graphics wise now. And I really appreciate the help!

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Re: Issues with Graphics in Linux

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Very nice looking desktop!
I can see why you use compiz.
I am glad oolite is running well for you now.
I suppose oolite is a lot like desktops and operating systems in that people may use some of the same things but they use them in different ways and for different ends.
:)

edit: also I need to learn to check previous posts :lol:
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Re: Issues with Graphics in Linux

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Damocles Edge wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:28 pm
Very nice looking desktop!
I can see why you use compiz.
I am glad oolite is running well for you now.
I suppose oolite is a lot like desktops and operating systems in that people may use some of the same things but they use them in different ways and for different ends.
:)

edit: also I need to learn to check previous posts :lol:
yep, everybody has their own way of doing things...

and not a problem (about checking previous posts that is)

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Re: Issues with Graphics in Linux

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While Compiz is/was a nice party trick and all that, it isn't all that great of a thing if you want to use your computer smoothly and efficiently. It eats graphical memory and RAM for no other reason that to render 3D stuff that you normally don't see when you do some stuff on the computer.

It is a nice model of the TARDIS console, but in all seriousness... it eats resources which isn't really necessary.

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Re: Issues with Graphics in Linux

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pleiadian wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:00 am
While Compiz is/was a nice party trick and all that, it isn't all that great of a thing if you want to use your computer smoothly and efficiently. It eats graphical memory and RAM for no other reason that to render 3D stuff that you normally don't see when you do some stuff on the computer.

It is a nice model of the TARDIS console, but in all seriousness... it eats resources which isn't really necessary.
actually, it hardly effects the speed or power of my machine at all.

I even run Compiz-Reloaded on my Compaq cq57 laptop (it has built in intel graphics and only 4 gigs of ram) and it doesn't slow that down much either.

As for smooth, it works the way I want it to work. It fits my style of using my machine... is there any other consideration?

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Re: Issues with Graphics in Linux

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Cody, you can also hang a penguin at the top of your rifle...
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Re: Issues with Graphics in Linux

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Getafix wrote:
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Cody wrote:
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Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:36 am
Cody, you can also hang a penguin at the top of your rifle...
I refuse to have Getafix hanging off my Winchester!
:lol: Low wings muscle tone couldn't keep me hanging for long anyhow... unless there is an innuendo about my weight!?!
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Re: Issues with Graphics in Linux

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Getafix wrote:
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... unless there is an innuendo about my weight!?!
Perish the thought, amigo... although you do look a trifle rotund.
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Re: Issues with Graphics in Linux

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fraterchaos wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:59 pm
Getafix wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:49 pm
Welcome aboard fraterchaos.
By now it must be obvious that you have joined...
(dramatic pause)
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...the friendliest board this side of Riedquat!

Cody wrote: I refuse to have Getafix hanging off my Winchester!
:lol: Low wings muscle tone couldn't keep me hanging for long anyhow... unless there is an innuendo about my weight!?!
:shock: (laughter swallowed)
Thanks Getafix!
penguin is always better when there's some meat on the bones

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